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[Budlite74]

Please Welcome ProteinFactory.com to Musclesci!

Protein Factory Inc.

[Aber1784]

welcome, glad to have you at MS

[Alexrogers]

Thank you. If you dont know about Proteinfactory.com let me give you a little background info on my company.

The Proteinfactory.com was started in 1998 by me, Alex Rogers. My first product was whey protein isolate. At the time I felt that the supplement industry was not hiding the fact that a whey protein existing without the carbs and the lactose. Two products that were giving me major digestive problems. (because I was training and working out like most typical college kids). I decided that I would start a protein company and promote that I had the FIRST whey isolate. (which I really did). Well little did I know that the supplement industry is driven by sneaky marketing techniques, outlandish claims, (like gain 10lbs in 30days!!, and bogus scientific claims. Thus my company failed. so there I was stuck with about 1200lbs of whey protein isolate, CFM whey isolate to be exact. I went on the message boards and begin to "pimp" by whey protein by the pound, because I just wanted to cut my losses and get rid of what I had. Well people started to ask me how to mix it, how to flavor it and so forth. I dont know how I exactly thought of the idea, but I started the idea of Proteinfactory.com. (I missed out on protein.com, which would have been really cool. Dupont technologies, which is now the Solae company, the biggest soy producer in the world beat me to the punch by about 3 weeks, this was in 1995). I would give my customers the choice of actually customizing protein powders. Thus I expanded my line to soy, milk, and hydrolyzed proteins. Creating workout formulas, mrps, and what have you.

People loved the idea of knowing exactly what they were getting. My company grew to what it is today.

Proteinfactory.com supply's the world best proteins. No company can touch our quality and our original unique proteins.

some of our top powders are.

1) Super Plama Protein.
2) Oatmuscle
3) Omega Muscle
4) CFM whey isolate
5) IPI
6) Hydrodipeptides (the first liquid peptide capsule)

If anyone has any questions post them here.

or go to our own message board because I am on that one 24/7 practically.

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[Budlite74]

awesome bro! Glad to have you on board!!!

[Alexrogers]

carbs postworkout

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theres definitely a reason to use high gi carbs postworkout like dextrose and maltodextrin. the whole thing behind them is those products are highly processed corn products. The body digests them very rapidly causing your pancreas to release huge amounts of insulin. This is NOT healthy for you at ALL. But the insulin helps shuttle nutrients where they need to go much more rapidly than a low GI carb.

so yes this is better for muscle growth..

BUT...and I mean a big butt

If your over 30 years old or have bodyfat around your gut, spare tire, love handles,,,whatever the "f" you want to call them HIGH GI carbs will put FAT on your body. No ifs and or buts. Not only that but high gi carbs like I said before are VERY unhealthy for you.

Listen, Im pretty ripped right now (see my pics) but I came to realize something this winter. One bodypart that stands out the most when you have your shirt off is your stomach. Quite frankly its the BIGGEST part of your upper front torso. Thus I decided this summer that I want to have a muscular stomach this summer. My stomach right now is in OK shape, its got some definition but its not muscular looking. Honestly I think I dont have the genes for a muscular stomach but Im not gonna let that stop me.

THEREFORE....

I need to lose bodyfat. If you want to a muscular looking stomach you need to lose bodyfat. Thus I will not be using any HIGH GI carbs postworkout. I switched my diet to ALL NATURAL. And Im getting there. I have been dieting for 4 weeks now and Im more ripped than I was this winter. I predict by summer I should have a muscular stomach. and it will get there by not eating HIGH GI CARBS.

ALSO, especially if you are a WOMEN you sure the hell dont want to use maltodextrin and dextrose postworkout. If you took a survey of 100 women that go to your gym. 99% of them want to lose fat or tone up (which is the same as losing fat). maltodextrin and dextrose are taboo in my opinion for women.

FINALLY, if your a skinny, ectomorph with barely any fat gracing your bones, than YEA maybe you do want high GI carbs. But let me warn you. Once you start getting that fat accumulating around your stomach,,,its very, very, difficult to lose. Thus why open a can of worms?

Now getting back to the guy that was teasing you for not using HIGH GI CARBS postworkout.

Ask yourself first, do you have a muscular stomach? Assuming that you want one (because hey, who doesnt) If you have FAT on your stomach you need to start eating right. And I think DROPPING high GI carbs from your diet is a step in the right direction.

Secondly, check this guy out and see if he's ripped. If hes NOT simply tell him (if hes not some big 300lbs guy with a tatoo on his bicep that says "I love mom" ) maybe if he dropped the high GI carbs he would have some much FAT accumulated around his gut. Oat muscle DOES supply glycogen to the body and will spare amino acids from being used as energy. And it wont make me fat because im trying to get ripped. Tell him that Oat muscle DOES supply glycogen to the body just as sufficient as dextrose and maltodextrin (just not as quickly, but thats a good thing) and will spare amino acids from being used as energy. And it wont make me fat because im trying to get ripped. Not only that but it gives me sustained energy and doesnt make me "crash" like the FALSE energy maltodextrin and dextrose provide. the 55 grams of dextrose that you are using is making you fat and making you hold water too


If he IS ripped you will have a hard time convincing him because most guys that are big and ripped (probably from steroids) you cant tell them anything. Thats one reason I stopped doing the ArnoldClassic and Olympia expos. I would tell these 350lbs juice monsters that the whey protein concentrate with L-glutamine and BCAA's that they spent $20 bucks for at Walmart was not the best protein for postworkout and they looked like they wanted to rip my head off.

FINALLY, I would like to say one thing. The supplment industry is filled with a bunch of scumbags (if you havent figured it out already). Take a guess what is the ONLY powdered carb source that is dirt CHEAP, tastes good, and is easy to get. Yep you guess it maltodextrin and dextrose. and oh yea, the bullshit imaginery product waxy maize is dirt cheap too.

Guess whats expensive, hard to get, and requires special manufacturing to make it mix good and taste good? Right again, OATMUSCLE!!!

Now which one yields the BIGGEST profilt? Wow youre a f'in genius, maltodextrin and dextrose.

Hes' my theory....99% of supplement company's PUSH maltodextrin and dextrose because theres a huge profit to be made off them. Please name me another company to offer low GI carbs like rice olgidextrin and oatmuscle.......tick tick tick tick tick tick...who is only the PROTEINFACTORY Mr. TREBEK, correct you are our new jeopardy champion.

conclusion.
If you want a ripped bod this summer use oatmuscle postworkout....if you want to gain weight and dont care about fat around your stomach use maltodextrin and dextrose. Because the bottom line is that Oatmuscle replenishes glycogen without spiking your insulin and dextrose does spike your insulin caused to to GAIN bodyfat.
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Heres some topics of discussion I thought people might be interested in....

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CLA ethyl ester ?

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Alex , what are your thoughts on the new CLA ethyl ester?


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#2 04-11-2008, 01:29 PM
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Cla

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I would say bullshit from China. Being a dietary fat i think the process of making a "reaction" with some sort of acid or something like that would really demolish and and degrade the fat.
the highest quality CLA is TONALIN brand and CLA one. everything else is CHINESE, including ethyl ester

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Creatine comes full circle

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Funny how things come full circle? Over 15 years now since we saw the emergence of creatine monohydrate. Still the ONLY supplement proven to actually increase muscle mass and improve athletic performance. With all the scientific bullshit studies on nitric oxide krap plamsa expanders, and crazy sub fractions of creatines, and funky form of amino acids, creatine monohydrate is the only true muscle building supplement. Thus what happen from then up until now you had supplement companies trying to make better forms of creatine so that they could say they have the BEST creatine supplement of course. Why? After creatine hit the scene and people realized how good it actually worked and demand went up, competition increased among the supplement companies. The cost of creatine when it first came out was high, I think I remember paying about $40.00 for 100 grams. Then by the time it was all said and done you could buy 1000 grams for like $15 bucks. Thus the supplement company’s profits went down to nil’. So they had a choice to make, ahhh let’s make a better form of creatine. Thus you had the start of the creatine spin-off’s. Everyone knows what they are so I’m not going to waste time. What I am going to do it get right to the point.

As you know the Proteinfactory.com sells protein. If I could get one thing across to my customers is the fact that I WANT you to know where I buy m protein from. I want you to know where it comes from. Thus I make it a point to brag about where I get it from. CFM from Glanbia, PeptoPro from DSM, caseinate from Australia. These are just a few examples. The whole point is so you know the quality of protein you are getting. Now lets switch gears and move on over to creatine monohydrate.

FACT: creatine monohydrate is now made in only two countries in the world. GERMANY and CHINA. Have your choice! Take a quick guess as to who has the highest quality. No seriously, this is the whole point of this article. Not really to have a debate on creatine monohydrate vs. creatine malic acid fumic ethyl ster, but to get the point across the origin of the creatine monohydrate is EXTREMELY important. Why? Because your health is at risk!!!

Here is something that I am pretty sure none of you know about. Why? Because #1 the supplement magazine aren’t going to tell you and #2 Leave it to the Proteinfactory to provide you with this kind of information. Creatine Monohydrate is sourced from two different chemicals. The first is Sodium Sarcosinate. Sodium Sarcosinate, acid, and cyanamide are brought together to form a reaction, then they go through a process of separation, washing, and drying. Then bingo out pops creatine monohydrate. This creatine monohydrate is the purest creatine monohydrate made. How do I know this? This type of creatine process is PATENTED world wide by (even has a CHINA patent) and goes by the name of CREAPURE. No other company in the world can use Sodium Sarcosinate to make creatine monohydrate.

The OTHER chemical that is used to make ALL OTHER (this is important) ALL OTHER creatines, and I don’t care what type of creatine it is ALL OTHER creatines is a chemical called thiourea. Thiourea is bad stuff. Making creatine monohydrate by using thiourea is actually patented by a CHINESE company. “The majority of Chinese creatine is manufactured according to a patented process (U.S. patent 6,326,513) that is very low-cost, but for which large quantities of thiourea are used. There is a considerable risk that this creatine could be contaminated with thiourea. Ingested thiourea is extremely harmful to health and is considered carcinogenic. For example, it is on the list of substances that are not allowed to be put in cosmetic products. It is forbidden to use Chinese creatine for cosmetic products. But creatine from China has not been banned as a dietary supplement. (Consumer Protection)”
Not good huh?. To nuts with all the other creatine monohydrates out there. And to debate which one WORKS better in my book is pointless. Why? Because there is not a chance in hell that I am going to be using a creatine monohydrate from CHINA. I don’t know about you but I’m 35 years old and my health is important to me. I don’t touch anything made in CHINA and that includes Prohormones.
Thus taking a look at a lot of these preworkout supplements, nitric oxide supplements, and many other crazy supplements that I don’t even know how to categorize many of them contain some form of crazy creatine monohydrate or another. And unfortunately they all come from CHINA.
Now that I made it a point that you should really only use CREAPURE creatine, I want to address one final thing. Last week I met with a rep from CREAPURE and discussed the claim that creatine monohydrate instantly begins to convert to creatinine when added to water. “Horseshit”, say the blonde Swedish lady from creapure. This is completely not true when using CREAPURE, maybe with CHINESE creatine, but not ours. Here’s a link with some stability studies.

creapure.com - creatine ingredients

Next week I will be continuing with part II. What’s the deal with all these other types of creatine and why they suck balls!!
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#2 02-15-2008, 06:06 PM
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thanks for the info, i wish i knew this information like 3 years ago when i first started lifting weights and using supplements... proteinfactory is really the only company i can really count on to not bullshit me, especially with marketing... how about the krealkalyn form? is that made from thiourea? because i have an unopened bottle of krealkalyn and i am debating whether to use it or not...

thanks alex

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More Killer QC Comments

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I have been using Killer QC for about a week now, but the first litmus test was last night. I utilize a high volume moderate weight approach for legs and usually my rep total for all exercises exceeds 200. This ALWAYS leaves me extremely sore the following three-four days. Today, I can walk up stairs and the soreness is drastically reduced, to the point that it is hardly noticeable (whereas previous it was always noticeable and barely manageable). I think you might be on to something here by reducing post workout soreness by way of elimination of free radicals caused by oxidative stress.


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#2 02-22-2008, 06:03 PM
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awesome...glad you like it...
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#3 02-25-2008, 04:54 PM
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I like what I'm hearing here...I can handle, and even like some of the post workout aches I get, BUT I CAN'T STAND THE DOMS I GET AFTER A STRONG SQUAT DAY! For this reason, I tend to limit my squat workouts to once every other week or so...even though I know they work very well for me. I just don't want to be a gimp all the time.

So does this stuff have a taste of its own? My post workout shake is in a chocolate flavor, and I'd consider just mixing it right in if it doesn't ruin the taste. Sounds like this would take the place of the red muscle formulation with its super high ORAC value too...is that correct?

[Matt76]

good to have you here