Prostate Cancer and Gear

[firefighter1014]

First off, let me introduce myself. I'm a member at xtrememass, and a vet at mms. I see a few familiar names. Hello everybody.

Background on me-
27years old. I've been a firefighter/paramedic for 5 years (If your not familiar with a paramedic's level of training, we intubate, analyze ecg rythms and treat with appropriate cardiac drugs, start peripherial IV lines, and occasionally use narcotics in the field for pain control or seizure tx. All of our training is geared toward maintaining short-term, cardio-pulmonary function. If it is outside the realm of emergency medicine, then my knowledge is very limited.) I've been lifting off and on since I was a teenager, but I've been lifting serious, hardcore for the past year, learning about how to properly eat and train for growth. I've gone from 150lbs to 190 in the past year. I'm currently cutting bodyfat, to get down to 175lbs with 10%bf. As soon as my bodyfat is lowered, I plan on starting my first cycle.

500mg test cyp 8-12 weeks (length dependant on how I feel near the end)
arimidex during cycle
finasteride during cycle
hcg at end of cycle (maybe during entire cycle)
pct with clomid and nolva

You can see from my ancillary chemical use, that my main goal is limiting side effects. I am not an athlete or a competitor, just someone in love with the iron, who wants to be a beast.

Here is the meat and potatoes of this post. Found out today that my 47 year old father has been diagnosed with prostate cancer (It's in the early stages, and should be easily treated). His 75 year old father was succesfully treated for prostate cancer last year. My father's uncles have also had prostate cancer.

1. With this strong family history of prostate cancer, how should this effect my decisions about aas?

2. What are the correlations between aas and prostate cancer? I've already used the search function, and read a few articles, but can't find much specific info other than vague and general warnings.

3. I plan on using a HRT doc for my pre and post cycle bloodwork and consultations instead of a general practitioner. Any suggestions on how to find a good one locally?

Thanks in advance for the advice. Sorry about the long post, but I wanted to give you the full picture.

	CLomid

	Nolva

	finastride

[JOEYZ]

Originally Posted by firefighter1014

First off, let me introduce myself. I'm a member at xtrememass, and a vet at mms. I see a few familiar names. Hello everybody.

Background on me-
27years old. I've been a firefighter/paramedic for 5 years (If your not familiar with a paramedic's level of training, we intubate, analyze ecg rythms and treat with appropriate cardiac drugs, start peripherial IV lines, and occasionally use narcotics in the field for pain control or seizure tx. All of our training is geared toward maintaining short-term, cardio-pulmonary function. If it is outside the realm of emergency medicine, then my knowledge is very limited.) I've been lifting off and on since I was a teenager, but I've been lifting serious, hardcore for the past year, learning about how to properly eat and train for growth. I've gone from 150lbs to 190 in the past year. I'm currently cutting bodyfat, to get down to 175lbs with 10%bf. As soon as my bodyfat is lowered, I plan on starting my first cycle.

500mg test cyp 8-12 weeks (length dependant on how I feel near the end)
arimidex during cycle
finasteride during cycle
hcg at end of cycle (maybe during entire cycle)
pct with clomid and nolva

You can see from my ancillary chemical use, that my main goal is limiting side effects. I am not an athlete or a competitor, just someone in love with the iron, who wants to be a beast.

Here is the meat and potatoes of this post. Found out today that my 47 year old father has been diagnosed with prostate cancer (It's in the early stages, and should be easily treated). His 75 year old father was succesfully treated for prostate cancer last year. My father's uncles have also had prostate cancer.

1. With this strong family history of prostate cancer, how should this effect my decisions about aas?

2. What are the correlations between aas and prostate cancer? I've already used the search function, and read a few articles, but can't find much specific info other than vague and general warnings.

3. I plan on using a HRT doc for my pre and post cycle bloodwork and consultations instead of a general practitioner. Any suggestions on how to find a good one locally?

Thanks in advance for the advice. Sorry about the long post, but I wanted to give you the full picture.

First of all..................Welcome to Musclesci. Prostate cancer has been shown is several studies to be linked directly to androgens in some way or another. There are methods of treating prostate cancer that actually involve the use of androgen deprivation which pretty well demonstrates that an increase in androgen level is going to play some role in the possible development or worsening of prostate cancer. As for specific figures.............I cant honestly say. You can read through some of THESE SITES which have some good info. Several studies that I have read suggest that the use of finastride decreases the risk for prostate cancer signifigantly. If you have a big family history of it, then it might be something that you really try to watch and look for symptoms of. Do you get annual tests for prostate cancer? As far as finding an HRT doc locally...............it depends on where you live. Smaller areas are probably going to use mainly Endocronologists for hormone replacement seeing as how there isnt a huge market for it in smaller cities. We have 2 or 3 of them running around the boards, such as Swale that might be able to direct you to a place that will do them locally. Like I mentioned................a lot of endocronologists cover this stuff in a lot of places. I hope this helps.

	CLomid

	Nolva

	finastride

[Nemo9]

For HRT you could try this link:
http://www.worldhealth.net/

It's the American Academy of Anti-Ageing Medicine and has a section where you can search for a physician. Having said that, at 27, you may not have low enough testosterone levels to qualify.

[liftsiron]

More recent studies indicate the E2 maybe the actual culprit in prostate cancer and not test. I would suggest either letro or arimidex be used to keep estrogen levels low. Finasteride may also provide some protection. Saw palmetto extract also may afford protection as it provides antinflamatory action specific to prostate tissue. Also in your case it would be wise to get frequent blood psa test done.

	Letro

	finastride

[firefighter1014]

Originally Posted by liftsiron

More recent studies indicate the E2 maybe the actual culprit in prostate cancer and not test. I would suggest either letro or arimidex be used to keep estrogen levels low. Finasteride may also provide some protection. Saw palmetto extract also may afford protection as it provides antinflamatory action specific to prostate tissue. Also in your case it would be wise to get frequent blood psa test done.

Thanks. I'm definately gonna run arimidex and finasteride during cycle. I'm also about to start regular saw palmetto usage. I've got a good family doc, and am gonna get with him and set up a regular psa and rectal exam schedule.

	finastride

[firefighter1014]

Originally Posted by Nemo9

For HRT you could try this link:
http://www.worldhealth.net/

It's the American Academy of Anti-Ageing Medicine and has a section where you can search for a physician. Having said that, at 27, you may not have low enough testosterone levels to qualify.

Thanks for the link, I'll definately check it out. As far as qualifying for HRT, I just plan on using a HRT doc to monitor me while I do my own, UG gear, not getting test or gh from him. I figure that he would be better at interpreting blood work during my cycle than my family practitioner. He would also be better at advising me on the risks of aas usage than a family practitioner, so I'll use him for consultations and blood work, but not for him to actually start a HRT regimen.