pct advice

cadams

l-dex .25 a day
clomid 100mg a day
nolvadex 40 a day
this would be run for 30 days give or take.

my cycle was simply 400mg test 3 times a week for 15 weeks. i have never needed to run nolvadex throughout any cycles, never needed to. have to cut this cycle a little short for other reasons, just looking for some input. ive ran this before for all cycles give or take dose/cycle time differences and worked well, but i would like to hear from some others if i need to change anything. im 5'10'' 208 dont know body fat but lean have a 5 and a half pack (haha)

thanks in advance,

c

***Budlite74***

I wouldnt use nolva and clomid till the last 15 days?

PumpDogg

Budlite has a good point..you did not say what test you were taking, but by your post I assume you are referring to test enth, or cyp... With that said you dont need dex, clomid and nolva.. I would use the clomid and nolva and leave out the dex..

using serms ( selective estrogen receptor modulators )will give you the best results long term IMO.. Both the Nolva and clomid are serms, both will compete for the estrogen and the Nolva will do better in keeping gyno away, while the clomid will help jump start the boys and get LH and FSH up faster..

Also if you are using a long acting test, like enth, or cyp. then it will be roughly 2 weeks before all of your last shot is out.. I would wait as Budlite pointed out to start my Serms then..

If you want something else for your pct, I would possibly add in a test booster after you come off the serms.. this will just give your body more time to normalize and have better overall test and e2 levels..

Just my 2 cents worth

cadams · 01:21 AM

my test 400 is

prop:25mg
cyp:187mg
enan:188mg

3 times a week m/w/f/

i was advised a while ago through this site that the l-dex and nolva do different things to help prevent est. while clomid will help the "boys"

how long should i wait to start then? how much of each should i take? ive been on a 15 week cycle. this is what i have done before starting a week after last shot and has worked great but respect this boards opinions greatly, please advise a "correct" pct for me. i am not being sarcastic when i say this, i greatly respect all the veteran opinions on this site! btw what is a "test booster"

thanks in advance,

c

PumpDogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadams

my test 400 is

prop:25mg
cyp:187mg
enan:188mg

3 times a week m/w/f/

i was advised a while ago through this site that the l-dex and nolva do different things to help prevent est. while clomid will help the "boys"

how long should i wait to start then? how much of each should i take? ive been on a 15 week cycle. this is what i have done before starting a week after last shot and has worked great but respect this boards opinions greatly, please advise a "correct" pct for me. i am not being sarcastic when i say this, i greatly respect all the veteran opinions on this site! btw what is a "test booster"

thanks in advance,

c

I appreciate the props man, but I am not what you would consider a vet.. I have been on many boards for many years, but my lifestyle does not allow for much posting.. With that said, you ask for my opinion so I will give it to you..

To serm or not to serm.. I personally feel using a serm is really the most productive way to do PCT.. Many people have done cycles of aas/ph/ps and not used serms and have done well.. Why have a long supplement shopping list that is expensive ( and may or may not work very well ) when you can use a few drugs and be done with it.. Just my thoughts.. Serms work.. not all supplements work..

PCT: 14 days after last shot start clomid and nolva.. Unless you start to show gyno symptoms.. itchy nipps, lump forming under nipple etc..

wk1.100 mgs/day of clomid, Nolva 40 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk2. 50 mgs/day clomid, Nolva 30 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk3. 25 mgs/day clomid, nolva 20 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk4. 25 mgs/day clomid, nolva 10 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wks 5-9 I would run a test booster.. there are many available.. ie..
Diesel Test
Isa-Test
T Bombs ll

You will of course have to access your body and see how things are going.. Nothing is set in stone.. I am not a fan of large doses of PCT drugs.. You did not use HCG thru your cycle so it will take a little longer to get things going..

Got a screaming kid to feed.. Will have to come back to this later on today bruh

cadams · 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PumpDogg

I appreciate the props man, but I am not what you would consider a vet.. I have been on many boards for many years, but my lifestyle does not allow for much posting.. With that said, you ask for my opinion so I will give it to you..

To serm or not to serm.. I personally feel using a serm is really the most productive way to do PCT.. Many people have done cycles of aas/ph/ps and not used serms and have done well.. Why have a long supplement shopping list that is expensive ( and may or may not work very well ) when you can use a few drugs and be done with it.. Just my thoughts.. Serms work.. not all supplements work..

PCT: 14 days after last shot start clomid and nolva.. Unless you start to show gyno symptoms.. itchy nipps, lump forming under nipple etc..

wk1.100 mgs/day of clomid, Nolva 40 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk2. 50 mgs/day clomid, Nolva 30 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk3. 25 mgs/day clomid, nolva 20 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wk4. 25 mgs/day clomid, nolva 10 mgs/day, Creatine Mono

wks 5-9 I would run a test booster.. there are many available.. ie..
Diesel Test
Isa-Test
T Bombs ll

You will of course have to access your body and see how things are going.. Nothing is set in stone.. I am not a fan of large doses of PCT drugs.. You did not use HCG thru your cycle so it will take a little longer to get things going..

Got a screaming kid to feed.. Will have to come back to this later on today bruh

bumb!!!!!!
anyone agree/disagree. thanks for the help pump dog, btw! i just cant seem to get a straight anwser re:pct.....this board is so great, where else can u go to have fellow bodybuilders helping eachother out? and it be legit...also why not start taking nolva right away. i have done in the past, i have learned through blood work my test levels vary pct even as close to 4-5days after last shot (sus)....