Need some help guys.....old timers experienced ones etc....

[ruckus190-2]

I am new to the site. Can anyone give me some feedback on phoenix labs products

[Alter-Ego]

Not to get off topic on Phoenix, but they are reputable. I think you can feel good about any purchase you make there!

Alter-ego

[ruckus190-2]

Thanks bro.

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by Colossus

So, i ran a superdrol cycle.....5 weeks. Shut me down HARD. Sex drive doesnt exist, cant get it up PERIOD. Did 50mg clomid for a month and a half with 20mg nolva. That was a month ago.....and one of my testicles is still a little atrophied...but the other is normal size. I have morning wood if that means anything at all, but other than that i really dont feel the same. Suggestions? Start another PCT? Anyone been shutdown for near two months? lol.

I have not read the whole thread but will comment on this first post.
I normally shut down very hard on gear myself.
HCG for testicular atrophy and function.
Clomid and nolva for pituitary and hypothalamus.
Sadly I do believe you could have recovered if you had testicular function onboard first, then ran the clomid @ 100mg and the nolva at 20mg.
30 days for clomid
45 days for nolva.

Good news is, because they were orals you dont have to worry about clearance times of the gear, so that is out of the equation.

If it was me, I would run another PCT.
I would also consider DHEA @ 25mg a day.
50mg zinc at night before bed.
No aspirin with the use of HCG.
HGH would be a good suggestion as this has some implications of helping things along during PCT.

Until you get those nuts back online recovery isnt possible.
Or you can just play the waiting game, but I would not recommend that due to low test levels are associated with all kinds of health issues like compromised immune system, compromised lipid profiles, compromised mental health, libido etc. Hell even the last one for a mad is enough:D

Anyway when I get the time I will read the whole thread, hell you might be already fixed up.

This condition you have is called Anabolic Steroid Induced Hypogonadism (AISH), it is more common than most think, many guys just go back on and say screw recovery.

There is hope bro, you in theory can be all fixed up in just 45 days.
I am older myself and find recovery hard but hardly impossible.
Good luck

Scott

	CLomid

	Nolva

	Hgh 177-191

[hackskii]

Ok, I would like to make some comments.

Always taper your S.E.R.M.'s and your AI's dut to the possibility of estrogen rebounding.

I have a good size post I typed up called understanding PCT if anyone is interested.

@ 20mg of nolva and 100mg of clomid (50mg X 2 ED), once your nuts are functional recovery will be a snap.
Always take an AI or nolva with the use of HCG if it is anything over 500iu, HCG has alot of aromitization and this aromitization can cause leydig cell desentization, and possible damage.

Take some Vitamin E with this as this can help leydig cell function.

But to be honest the only way to tell if your nuts are producing testosterone is a blood test, if you are good at it, noticing declines in test production is easy, like dry skin, no morning wood, libido, fat gain, etc.
Leydig cells only amount to around 10% overall mass in the nuts. So, you cant really go by size.
If the size of your nuts are a concern, try and get your hands on some HMG, that is 75iu FSH, and 75iu of LH, that will help in sperm production which lags far behind in the recovery sceem of things.

Hope this helps somewhat.

	CLomid

	Nolva

[Colossus]

Alright guys, im still not recovered. Started Second PCT 100mg clomid 20mg nolva 2 weeks ago. No change. Now remember only one nut is slightly atrophied, the other is fine. I cant get hard if jessica alba was slobbering on my knob.

	CLomid

	Nolva

[wolves]

Originally Posted by Colossus

Mid twenties....yes, this shouldnt be happening.....it shouldnt take this long.

Get some Cialis for the next few weeks. Everything should clear up. Don't panic.

	Cialis

[powerlifter]

HCG should do the trick