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| New Member ![]() | cycling slin? hey guys thinkin of doin some slin thinkin 5 ius 3 times a day just want some info on this. i know i have to eat close to when i take it, any suggestions on how many carbs i need per iu and what types if it matters if it is high or low glycemic carbs? also wondering if i have to cycle off of it...we all know test lowers the natural test level is insulin the same or if i go off for a few days if i go out of town will it not matter? thanx guys. gonna be takin humilin r |
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| Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 23
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Rep Power: 6 ![]() | Re: cycling slin? I really think you need to read alot more before even touching slin.. Slin should be used for a max of 4 weeks Secondly yes there is a certain time you need fast carbs in your body upon injecting.. This is the most important aspect of insulin you must get this right and know how to do it if not then dont even bother you would be better off without it. first off you want to take you shake not long after injection 5-10 mins. But keep it on hand just incase you go IV because like i said before the onset is instant. the rule of thumb is 10 grams of dextrose to 1 iu of insulin but this is just a safe margin it's normally in the range of about 7 grams dextrose to 1iu of insulin. but start off at 10 grams per iu and then work down after until you feel comfortable with it and you just off hypo. better to be safe than sorry with this stuff. with your carb drink you want about 50-80 grams of whey isolate protein with the dextrose. and have the shake with WATER no milk. after that you want a solid meal about an hour after you shot in my eyes chicken and sweet potatoes are the best at this you want low gi carbs with this meal not high gi carbs. you want approx 30-50 grams protein and 30-50 grams of carbs YOU DONT WANT ANY FATS WHILE INSULIN IS STILL ACTIVE
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| Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: BFE
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Rep Power: 6 ![]() | Re: cycling slin? Some of the elite guys are running slin alot differently. They will only use it 2 days a week ranging from 3iu-10iu 3x's on those days. Needless to say these are the high carbs days. This does several things. Minimizes fat gain, takes a strain off the pancreas from the use of GH, and keeps the body from becoming insulin dependant. The only people who should be using slin without GH are those that have a metabolism like Dexter Jackson who is naturally ripped without cardio or diet. Anyone else will just get fat. As for me, I keep my GH at 2-4iu and at that low of a dose I am able to get a decent release of natural insulin with GI carbs.
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| Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: BFE
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Rep Power: 6 ![]() | Re: cycling slin? The elite guys use it 2 days a week, 3iu-10iu 2-3 x's a day. For example Monday & Thurday are your high carb days and these would be the days you use the slin. This lessens the strain on the pancreas from the GH, minimizes fat gain. Faiz is on point with the 10g carbs per iu. If you do not walk around in the single digits (bf) and are not taking GH then you will more than likely just get fat.
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Rep Power: 2 ![]() | Re: cycling slin? this is how i do my slin i do slin 4 weeks on, 3 weeks off only on workout days i do 2 shots, first one 1 hour before workout, 10 ius with a vitargo shake, then the next one post workout 10 ius with another vitargo shake, then a protein shake 30 min. after that |
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| Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: BFE
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Rep Power: 6 ![]() | Re: cycling slin? I posted twice because the 1st post never showed up, and I thought I lost it. Sorry about the dbl post!
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