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[littleguy]

So I surfing through a very well known medical site about two minutes ago and became irrate. And then I thought to myself 'if this site is still using this means of measurement then how many lay people are getting bad advice?' So I'm taking this time to educate!

Height/weight charts are OUTDATED!!! They don't work especially for body builders. They are an archaic tool that should not be used at all. My current height weight status is obese. No way in hell am I obese.

If anyone is using this old tool for body measurement STOP! It's wrong, not just from my personal experience, but I was taught three years ago that this form of measurement is completely out of date.

If you want to find out your weight status here are the tests that are proven effective;

1. Hydrostatic weighing
2. Callipers
3. Anthropomorphic measurement (which I have the charts and equations to do)

All of these tests need to be done by a trained professional, calliper tests can go very wrong very easily, hydrostatic is the best overall but hard to come by, Anthropomorphic can be done at home with a tape, some knowledge, and a whole lot of math.

This is my personal soap box, I'm just trying to rid the world of misinformation.

[SwampGator]

LG, I spent 21 years in the Marine Corps screaming the same thing and you know what they have finally changed, but only a little. They use bf% more than just ht. wt. According to ht. wt. I've been obese all my life, even in H.S. football when I had six pack abs and a 275 lb. bench press. I agree 100%, throw that crap out the window!!! ;)

thanks for bringing a really important topic up!!!! and we woman really really get freaked when they tell us we are obese !!! i personally dont let anyone test my b/f as i always come up OBESE and always have! (and yeah, with a six pack i was obese too!)

thanks

[littleguy]

Originally posted by OOXRSIZER@Apr 9 2004, 05:43 AM
thanks for bringing a really important topic up!!!! and we woman really really get freaked when they tell us we are obese !!! i personally dont let anyone test my b/f as i always come up OBESE and always have! (and yeah, with a six pack i was obese too!)

thanks

If you want I can do your anthropormorphic measurement. Just PM me. I've found it to be the most dead on without using a hospital.

THANKS LITTLEGUY
i did send ya a PM...

Which is sad because the base that I work at is doing the body composition checks at this time.. guess what they are using.. height and weight. (Although the lady did tell us that if your weight is way off from what your height should be, they at least use their brains and pull out a set of calipers.)
The pilots are given the chance to go through anthro to get thier body composition done.
Old habits are hard to break I guess.

[littleguy]

Originally posted by lozinit@Apr 9 2004, 05:30 PM
Which is sad because the base that I work at is doing the body composition checks at this time.. guess what they are using.. height and weight. (Although the lady did tell us that if your weight is way off from what your height should be, they at least use their brains and pull out a set of calipers.)
The pilots are given the chance to go through anthro to get thier body composition done.
Old habits are hard to break I guess.

I just don't understand why anyone especially the military uses a form of measurment that is proven wrong. Especially when the other forms of measurment are relatively easy. Like you said lozinit old habits die hard.

:poke:

[caturpilar]

Originally posted by littleguy@Apr 10 2004, 08:48 AM

I just don't understand why anyone especially the military uses a form of measurment that is proven wrong. Especially when the other forms of measurment are relatively easy. Like you said lozinit old habits die hard.

:poke:

The Military needs to get with the times. Everytime they they "tape" an overweight marine for bf, it is always about 3-4% higher than a caliper test at the gym. I knew one guy that got kicked out for being overweight. He was 5'10" 270lbs about 10%bf but he was considered overwieght. A small neck can be a huge factor in the 'caveman taping' experience.

[SwampGator]

Originally posted by caturpilar+Apr 10 2004, 08:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (caturpilar @ Apr 10 2004, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-littleguy@Apr 10 2004, 08:48 AM

I just don't understand why anyone especially the military uses a form of measurment that is proven wrong. Especially when the other forms of measurment are relatively easy. Like you said lozinit old habits die hard.

:poke:

The Military needs to get with the times. Everytime they they "tape" an overweight marine for bf, it is always about 3-4% higher than a caliper test at the gym. I knew one guy that got kicked out for being overweight. He was 5'10" 270lbs about 10%bf but he was considered overwieght. A small neck can be a huge factor in the 'caveman taping' experience. [/b][/quote]
Yeah I've seen those Marines in the gym that work their neck only :blink: