im in the army and need help with this one

[hunter22]

any thoughts on how my results will turn out with 500mgs of test and 300mgs of deca a week. in 10-12%bf and i run 3miles evry day. my diet will be very strict...
any help would be awesome :pissed:

[Squat4Life]

you'll get swole

[Faiz]

It hard to say honestly. Strong Diet and Strong PCT can help your gains. No one can say you will add X number of lbs. It depends on diet, training and PCT

	Nolva

[Steel]

I would stay away from Deca if you are in the Army. Test is natural to the body. The Army uses a really cheap testing procedure for the main sample but if you test hot they send the other portion of your sample for gas cromatagraph with is not going to miss anything!!No one is going pop you while on test. When you use things like Deca,Eqipose,boledone, and other 19-Nor type conpounds you increase you risk of getting poped by random drug testing!!! Deca can be detected 1-2 years after you quite useing it. most of these other substances are not found int he body naturaly or only in pregnant women in minicule amounts(19-Nor's).How do plan on getting around random drug testing?

[irishcoug0307]

Originally Posted by Steel

I would stay away from Deca if you are in the Army. Test is natural to the body. The Army uses a really cheap testing procedure for the main sample but if you test hot they send the other portion of your sample for gas cromatagraph with is not going to miss anything!!No one is going pop you while on test. When you use things like Deca,Eqipose,boledone, and other 19-Nor type conpounds you increase you risk of getting poped by random drug testing!!! Deca can be detected 1-2 years after you quite useing it. most of these other substances are not found int he body naturaly or only in pregnant women in minicule amounts(19-Nor's).How do plan on getting around random drug testing?

So if you were goingto take just test would you take anything else with it if you are in the military? What type of test would you take? And for beginners how much wouldyou want to take and what PCT would you reccommend?

	Nolva

[Steel]

I would not get carried away with it and here is why. If any of the anti-e or PCT type compounds are found in your urine you fail the test as well! So you need to keep the dose to a level that you can manage without needing tamoxifen,clomid,armidex etc....... The Army will do one of two things either prosacute you and send you to a federal facility for 20 years or they will give you a dishonerable discharge at the least. Both of these will follow you for the rest of your life. If you are lucky they will keep retesting those that have already passed before! No one like to have to report that they have a soldier that failed a drug test! It looks bad from the bottom up.

	CLomid

	Nolva

[Steel]

Their was a time when ranger canadates used to use a combination of steroids and speed in an injectable to help make it through training. If they do not get caught it helps them recover and stay awake. It also helped hold on to lean body mass wich is hard to do when you are onthe move for 2 weeks with almost no rest for days atr a time and you have almost no food. THose that make it without the drugs wich is most of them frown on those that cheat. They are usualy called "Chemical Camando's"!!!

[darknyc03]

Well for one thing if u do get caught, your not goin to the brig for 20 years, maybe a couple of months. People everyday is the service get caught with drugs in there system. When they test you 2 in the military they dont test every bottle of urine, would cost 2 much money. Also, there are alot aways to get around the drug tests. Your not goin to get a dishonorable discharge. I know people that got caught with drugs, went U.A went to the brig, then got an general under honorable. To get a dishonorable you really have to fuck up.

[darknyc03]

I dont want to tell you to do it or not to do it. It pretty much if u can handle the consequences if you do get caught.

[Alter-Ego]

I was on active duty for 10 years (95-05) and now a reservist for the past 2 and have never had a problem with any substance associated with bodybuilding. I've known many guys who have served and continue to serve. The only way you are going to get caught is either it's in your posession, or you test positive for something like marijuana or cocaine when the send your sample for a confirmation test.

Good Luck!