Taking syno without removing the estrogen!

[Vladimir]

Allright guys... its time to get crazy!!! Everyonce in a while we all hear something crazy and have to shake our heads. This is one of those times! For those of us familiar with synovex conversions, I think its safe to say that the most importand and crutial step is the removal of the estrogen. For every 100 mlg of test there is 10 mlg of estrogen. Thats a 10 to 1 ratio, in other words if taken you could have bi__h tits in a week. Its like "gyno is a can". I guess there are some willing to risk it for the incredible size and strength gain from the incredible amount of water retention due to the estrogen. If one could avoid gyno somehow, it possibly could surpass the results gained from anadrol or d-bol. 1 week ago, a close friend of 15 years just got his green card and moved here from Ukraine. He is gargantuan. His name is Kiril. He will soon be competing in the US strong man competiotions. Upon his arrival, we got the talkin about what he was using and how his training has been. This crazy russian has been using syno with the estrogen for the last 4 months. He has had no signs or gyno, not even a sligh discomfort or soreness. I am blown away at the doses. He has been taking 2 grams a week, which is not a lot for a strongman. The crazy part is at that dose, he is taking 200 mlgs of estrogen along with the test. 200 mlgs a week of etrogen, for 4 months. How is it possible!!! I am simply blown away!! I don't see how a person could blow up like a water balloon, have so much water retention and bloat ( insane bloat!!) and not have any signs of gyno!!! The other thing is he says that the injections aren't bad. Wouldn't the estrogen cause problems or require more solvents to keep it from crashing. He said he uses the same ba/bb mixture as in test prop converison (5%/10%). Woudln't the estrogen require adjustments with the ba/bb. i wanna hear some opinions on this. and please... ...everything stated here is true and is not stretched in any way, so please don't say .. " bul&*it!.. he's lying...." As crazy as this is...i wanna know if anyone out there has hear of this before or maybe even done this themselves ........ lets have it!

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[Nasferatu]

[Nasferatu]

I am now doing Syno and do have a little gyno but I have put on about 10 lean in 2 months. If you use anti estrogens it will kill the water retention. Remember you need estrogen to realize true gains in size.

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[Vladimir]

Yes, I of all people know this. I am actually all about the water retention. I love having a really full thick look. I know all about the benefits of estrogen. What i am saying is, if the estrogen is not removed, you are taking an insane amount of estrogen. Lets say you are doing 2 grams of test a week. With this you will be taking 200 mlgs of pure estrogen a week. I am just just amazed he hasn't had the slightest signs of gyno. More power to him. If this kind of cycle doesn't give you problems, it could possible be the best cycle you could do ( size and strength wise).

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[Vladimir]

I have decided that i am gonna do a 12 week cycle of this. I am well aware of the potential side effects and must be extemely careful to watch for the earlies signs of gyno, so that proper meds can be take, or to end cycle immediatelly. My only concern going into this is how to adjust the bb/ba percentages. Normally with prop i try to do about 10%bb and 5% ba. When i asked this nut what he did for his formula, he said nothing. He put in an unknown amoun of both, and the solution didn't even hold. The whole thing crashed within a day and here is the crazy part... he din't care. He has been shooting this lumpy huge crystal like stuff that settles at the bottom with an 18g needle for the past 4 months. It won't go through anything smaller. OUCH!!!! I am not gonna do that. Those of you guys out there... i am willing to play lab rat with this thing, but i would need a little help with figuiring out the proper solvent percentages. When doing the conversion from powder to injectable. I plan to prepare this just like reg prop 10-15%bb, and 5% ba. I am just not sure whether the estrogen will cause any differences or if it will require any changes in the solvent/solution ( exept for weight). Any help will be appreciated.

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[temporarytool]

To know for sure, I think, that the estrogen is actually removed from the prop by the estrogen solubolizer that is in all the kits than the person would have to know exactly what is in the solubolizer. The very few of us that do are the ones that are selling the kits and the only proof I've seen that it is removed is the lab report on one sight that is so freaking small you can't read it, even blown up because the distortion. If no one can read it how is it proof.

Maybe the estro left in isn't very much compared to what the body is producing on that much test anyway.

I am definately not a chemist but this shit seems fishy to me.

[someodd]

Originally Posted by temporarytool

To know for sure, I think, that the estrogen is actually removed from the prop by the estrogen solubolizer that is in all the kits than the person would have to know exactly what is in the solubolizer. The very few of us that do are the ones that are selling the kits and the only proof I've seen that it is removed is the lab report on one sight that is so freaking small you can't read it, even blown up because the distortion. If no can read it how is it proof.

Maybe the estro left in isn't very much compared to what the body is producing on that much test anyway.

I am definately not a chemist but this shit seems fishy to me.

I have to agree. The kit sellers are making a fortune selling this magical estrogen solubolizer (40+ bucks per tiny vial), and we have no proof it is actually doing anything. What do they care? They take your money and laugh all the way to the bank.

Anyone out there making home-made test prop from synovex needs to take a serious look at this issue.

[someodd]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

and here is the crazy part... he din't care. He has been shooting this lumpy huge crystal like stuff that settles at the bottom with an 18g needle for the past 4 months. It won't go through anything smaller. OUCH!!!! I am not gonna do that. .

Well, this is where your entire story looses incredible credibility. First you said he does 2g of synovex with the estridol what, A WEEK?

Then you tell us he shoots an unknown crystal like substance with an 18g needle.

Trust me, no man would shoot with a 18g needle, and anyone who says they have, is lieing. They are soo huge, it is litterally like stabbing yourself with a knife. You can fit many 25g needles in the volume space of the 18 needle entrance. I also highly doubt he could not push the stuff through a smaller needle. Even a 22g should push anything liquid through.

Allow me to start the BULLSHIT chant---- BUUUUUUUUULL SHIIIIIIIIIT
BUUUUUUUUUL SHIIIIIIIIT BUUUUUUUUUUUL SHIIIIIIIIIT!!!!


funny story tho :)

[Vladimir]

I think you are just trying to stir s**h up. You are obviously an beginner. A newbie! I will admit that shooting with 18 gauge is painful, but the fact that you think its so out there says that you have not been around any serious lifters. Most of my cycles, i use a 20g needle, no problem. PS, 2 grams a week is a lot for am avergae bb/ or lifter, but for strongman its a moderate dose. This shows how little you know about these sports. You just wanna call people a lier. You should not talk about others like that, especially when you talk about a top amateur strongman, which one of his legs probably weighs more than you. Go to another board and stir up trouble, nobody wants it here. you fool!

[die2live]

And his name is "Shana McCollough" - heheheh