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Old 09-21-2004, 07:07 PM
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synovex h to test base conversion

THE SAME CAN BE DONE WITH FINAPLIX-H TO MAKE TRENBOLONE BASE


Ok guys, this is a simple and easy way to convert Synovex-H to get test base, which can be used in a transdermal application. You will yield anywhere from 12-20g test base from this, depending upon how careful you are with this process. This was developed by Chemo and I got much help from Wardog and Bobo. There are kits out there to do this for test prop inject, but if you want a transdermal or just TNE for whatever reason this is the way to go.

Materials needed:

1. 1 box Synovex-H
2. 2 bottles Heet (available everywhere for your car), around $2-3
3. 1 Bottle Red Devil Lye (Available at grocery stores, Walmart, Hardware store), around $5
4. Glass coffee pot and bucket(s) or other containers
5. Dust masks and/or coffee filters
6. Pill crusher if desired (available at any drug store), around $5

Ok, the how and why(s) of it:

Synovex H is a cattle implant that contains testosterone propionate and estradiol. We are going to remove the estradiol and strip away the propionate ester to end with test base! Ok, on to the conversion:

1. Crush all the syno pellets and place them in the glass coffee pot or bucket and fill with the 2 bottles of Heet. I used a cheap pill crusher I found at a local drug store, made it real quick and easy. If you don't crush them,they simply take much longer to dissolve. Let the pellets dissolve until the only thing left is the white filler which should settle to the bottom. It wll look like a hit cloudy substance when stirred, no granular particles. With crushed pellets this could be only a few hours.

2. Next filter out the filler materials from the Heet solution. I suggest you get a small funnel like used for adding oil to your car, and place a dust mask in it and filter away. Set that aside and move on to playing with lye, chemical burns are fun! I'm kidding, but be careful you big idiot!<!--emo&--><!--endemo-->

3. Next you need to add saturated sodium hydroxide (Red Devil Lye). This will remove the esters and make the estradiol water soluble. To get saturated sodium hydroxide you need to get a small, thick glass container and do this step in a cold water bath. Start by putting about 2 ounces (or 1/4 cup) of water in the glass, and slowly add the lye a tablespoon or so at a time. IT WILL GET VERY HOT, hence the cold water bath. You will notice the lye dissolve in the water quickly, just keep slowly adding lye until it doesn't dissolve anymore (remains powder or crystals), then add just a little more water. This is "saturated" sodium hydroxide. Add this to the Heet mix, stir it up, and let it sit for at least a day.

4. Next we will add water to make the test base precipitate out into powder or crystals. There are 2 ways of doing this:
A. Add about a 1/2 gallon of water to the mix, stir it up and the test powder will form. If you do this your filtering will be much more time consuming, but it does work fine.

B. "The Wardog Way" This is the more efficient way of getting test base, especially time-wise. Get a paper or plastic sup or container, something that will hold 1/2 gallon or you'll have to keep filling it up. I used a milk jug. Your mix should be in the coffee pot, so it probably won't hold a 1/2 gallon of water, so pour it in a bucket. Get some cardboard and cut a hole in it in the center, and place over the bucket. You are going to poke a tiny little hole (with a needle, I mean tiny damnit!) in the bottom of the plastic jug or cup and let the 1/2 gallon of water slowly drip into the heet and lye mix. This will form test crystals, big nice pretty crystals that are easy to filter!

5. Once the water has been added and test powder or crystals formed, now just filter out and rinse the test. I tried using a dust mask for the powder, won't work, too damn slow. A coffee filter will do fine, or if you have crystals a permanent coffee filter (usually has a reinforced mesh, available at Walmart or grocery store) is better. With test powder expect some time invested in filtering it, with crystals it's done in minutes. Once you are done, rinse the test repeatedly to make sure the excess hydroxide is off completely, no reason to cycle Red Devil! Now let it dry overnight or give it a bake in the oven at a VERY LOW temp. My oven goes as low as 170, I used that and let it bake to speed up the drying process, but don't burn it you fool! Now chop it up with a razor like Scarface and there you have test base!!
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Awsome post. This is by far the easiest to understand. There are a couple part i am confused about.

Materials needed......... The 2 Heet bottles, what ml are they? are they the 322 ml? I am to use 644 ml to add to the crushed pellets? just want to make sure.

Part 3...... where is says "next you need to add saturated sodium hydroxide ( Red Devil lye)" to heet mix. I don't quite get how to saturate it and how much water to use. The lye which i am planning on buying is a pellet for. Am i correct when i read that i am to take 2 ounces of water (distilled), place it into a cold bath to keep it cool, and very slowly add the lye pellets and slowly keep adding them until they stop dissolving? I want to verify that the whole step will consist of the 2 ounces of distilled water, the addition of pellets until they no longer dissolve, and a small amount of water in the end to make it "Saturated". I also hope you can tell me just how much water to add in the end " to saturate it ".

At the end of part 3... after we add the "Saturated" sodium hydroxide to the heet mix.. it says to stir up and let it sit for at least a day. Where is the ideal place to let the mixture sit. Am i supposed to place it in the refrigerator or keep is a certain cool dry place?

Part 4 B. I am planning to use the "WArdog Way" drip method. I want to know if there is a maximum amount of time this should take. Would it be bad for the solution if it took too long or not enough. What is the general time frame?
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Are you sure that lye and that short process is all you need to get rid of the estradiol?

Why would anyone pay for the estradiol solubilizer kit if it is this easy?
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Are you sure that lye and that short process is all you need to get rid of the estradiol?

Why would anyone pay for the estradiol solubilizer kit if it is this easy?
...people get the kit because they want to remove the estriodol WITHOUT removing the prop ester from the test...they just want prop, this will give you test base...possibly
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...people get the kit because they want to remove the estriodol WITHOUT removing the prop ester from the test...they just want prop, this will give you test base...possibly
so is the estrogen solubilizer included in the kits saturated sodium hydroxide.. which u could find in supermarkets?
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so is the estrogen solubilizer included in the kits saturated sodium hydroxide.. which u could find in supermarkets?
No...NaOH would remove the propionate and leave you with test base.

You can actually separate the estriodol without trying to precipitate it out...just takes some simple lab skills and patience...think recrystalization.
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If doing this with tren, I hear its difficult to get crystals. I hear they come easy with test though.
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Is distilled water necessary, or can I use tap water? I noticed the original instructions in this post never call for distilled.
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