The magic estradiol benzoate solubizer?

[fatsuperman]

I've seen this eluded to a couple times but nothing from anyone I have a ton of confidence in?

Of course this comes in a powder form

Potassium tert-Butoxide

IM NOT A CHEMIST

but supposidly it will work on the estradiol but won't take the esters out so the result is test prop

[dumbbell]

I'd like to know what it is also, because were getting screwed bigtime. D's said he'd tell us the secret after he finished school. Don't hold your breath.

[fatsuperman]

What happened to D and his eagle research? Did he get in trouble?
I can get some of anamal's stuff, he sells it in powder form (not sure if it is the same stuff as everyone else), he sells it pretty cheap, but he's hard to get a hold of.

Anyway if you could get his powder, and get some Potassium tert-Butoxide, check melt points, weight per volume, maybe see what the relative PH is lets say 300 ml of water.

Then you could try both on a cart each and see if the resulting crystals have about the same mass yield, and the same melt point (120 C).

I know a polymer chemist at work (not a organic) chemist, I perhaps could ask him how to test in a home lab to see if an unknown substance is indeed Potassium tert-Butoxide. It would be easier than asking than "how do you remove estridol benzonate and not damage the test prop"

[dumbbell]

I'm with ya! I'd be up for sending this stuff off some where to get it tested. There are many, who know the secret, but I believe it's very closely guarded because so much money is being made on it. At are expense! Maybe someone knows of a lab or something. This method could create some dirt cheap juice, if the secret is known.

[fatsuperman]

Believe it or not a few years ago I saw a used gas chromatograph at a flea market.

I thought "what the hell would someone want that for"

Well now I know.

As for cheap you can get powders so stinking cheap its ridicules these days, but I have bad luck and its' not as easy as it sounds to get an anoymous shipping address.

Animal sells his solubolizer pretty cheap, its just tough to get a hold of him!

[Mustanged77]

How do you use it in the conversion? You can't just add estrogen solubizer and thats it? Post more info if you have it

[fatsuperman]

Once you do it is easy

crush pellets
dissolve methenol
add solubulizer
wait
recrystalize
dry crystals
weigh crystals
add to BA and Sterile Oil of Choice in Sterile Vial
Cook to Sterilization

(instructions from the syno kit guys or universal kits)

transdermal (test base goes like this)

crush pellets
dissolve in methenol
add solubulizer (magic formula) <---removes Estrogen Benzonate
wait
recrystallize test prop
dry crystals
dissolve test prop in methenol
add super saturate (NAOH) sodium hydroxide (aka lye) <- removes prop ester
wait
recrystallize
rinse till PH is near neutral
Dry
add to transdermal carrier of choice (Phlojel, DMSO)

[Mustanged77]

Originally Posted by fatsuperman

Once you do it is easy

crush pellets
dissolve methenol
add solubulizer
wait
recrystalize
dry crystals
weigh crystals
add to BA and Sterile Oil of Choice in Sterile Vial
Cook to Sterilization

(instructions from the syno kit guys or universal kits)

transdermal (test base goes like this)

crush pellets
dissolve in methenol
add solubulizer (magic formula) <---removes Estrogen Benzonate
wait
recrystallize test prop
dry crystals
dissolve test prop in methenol
add super saturate (NAOH) sodium hydroxide (aka lye) <- removes prop ester
wait
recrystallize
rinse till PH is near neutral
Dry
add to transdermal carrier of choice (Phlojel, DMSO)

The problem is that the methynol dissolves the esters of both test and estro so you end up with test suspension. Totally usless as an injectable.

Also, don't buy from Dazed syno kit . He is taking peoples money and not delivering the goods. I know because I'm a $110 poorer now

[dumbbell]

Is this ran by Dazed?

[fatsuperman]

Methanol simply dissolves the hormones IT DOES NOT CREAT TEST SUSPENSION

Test prop or test base crystals can be formed again simply by adding water slowly and filtering.

using lye (NAOH) sodium hydroxide will strip the ester (propinate) and leave you only test base (supension) if injected.... but usable for transdermal

But if you the estradol solubulizer you can get just test prop.

Universal Kits wtill sells conversion kits for SYno H for Test Prop

ALSO

If you are really motivated you can use super saturation (selective recrystalization) to purify the estrogen out but it is really labor intensive.

TRUST me I believe I know what I'm talking about I spent a lot of time monkeying around with this