Secrets To Losing Weight While Retaining Your Muscles

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Originally Posted by Aurora

Keto by definition eats muscle. So that doesnt make any sense.

anyways... didnt anyone ever tell this guy that carbs are protien sparing????

I dont follow your thought proccess,
Ketosis by definition burns fat as energy not protien or muscle, well the real definition is - an abnormal increase of ketone bodies in the blood - ketosis - definition from dictionary.die.net but the increase of ketones is from the liver processing fatty acids into ketones, instead of processing carbs to make glucose. I think your thinking of Gluconeogenesis where the body uses converts amino acids to glucose - second year biochemistry

I would never bulk on keto but its an effective tool to cut.

I would agree that unless you adjusted your macro's accordingly it would be a bad idea but as long as you stay within the 60/35/5 macro you shouldn't be burning muscle, obviously of corse you would lift extremely hard and high sets low rep high weight to still maintain your gains from bulking. However with any cut you will lose some muscle so some loss is expected due to a cal deficit that is required.

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[Playdough]

Originally Posted by Aurora

Keto by definition eats muscle. So that doesnt make any sense.

anyways... didnt anyone ever tell this guy that carbs are protien sparing????

After re-reading your post I think that your under the impression keto = high protien, low carb, low fat? Actually keto = high fat, mid protien, low carb thats where the 60%fat/35%protien/5% carb macro I posted ment.

I will try to explain using some words from a nutritionist I know, he explains it much better then I probably could. -

"On a high protein diet, we will assume that there is some soft of lack of carbs. This would only make sense as we are going for fat loss here, and the body will never burn fat with an excess of carbohydrates. Ok -- if this part makes sense, keep following me.... Most people on high protein also keep their fats real low. So what now? We have taken away carbs for fuel, taken away fats for fuel...It should go after stored fat right? NOPE -the body is going to munch away at that ingested and stored protein (Read: that hard earned muscle). Why you ask? The body generally is very responsive to stimulus, and while it might make sense that it would seek stored fat, it doesn't. If you give your body an excess of something, it will then seek that out in the future.... this is part of how the keto diet works...when ingesting fat and converting fat to the main source of fuel in the body, it will be more likely to seek out stored fat in the future when looking for fuel.... just like with fats, if you give your body protein and no other fats or carbs, it will have no choice but to seek out the protein and muscle as you will be forcing it to use protein as a fuel source. Low carb, low fat - high protein diets are not for bodybuilders.... hell, they shouldn't be for anyone..."

Not saying you cant effectively cut on a 40/40/20 heck people do it all the time, I have even tried it and had good results, you just have to work a bit harder for it in terms of cardio to deplete glycogen that is stored from carbs. I just prefer a keto diet for cutting, all about personal preference but saying keto = eating muscle for energy is just incorrect.

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[Aurora]

Keto means your body is in ketosis, which translates into the burning of tissues. not to mention its highly toxic.

[jsonbrent]

ketosis = burning of ketones for energy instead of carbohydrates.........its only dangerous for diabetics.......short-term (12 weeks or less) ketogenic diets are ok for healthy individuals as long as the fats they choose are of the omega-3 and 6 variety.......check out dave palumbo's diet......

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[Aurora]

Im sorry you cant convince me that having acid floating around my system and the resulting free radicals is a safe way of dieting. To me thats like saying its ok to smoke for 12 weeks at a time. Especially when there are SOOOOOOO many more effective and less dramatic ways of dieting that produce the same or better results. For me, Im 3 weeks out from a show where I have starchy carbs with every meal and have had 5 cheat days on my diet so far... and Im the leanest Ive ever been, and I feel the best I ever have. Ive dieted alot of different ways... it really doesnt need to be painful.