New Cycle

[darknyc03]

Im thinking about doin another. My first cycle was tren eod for 8 weeks, then my natural test shut down n i became an 80 year old woman. lol Now im feeling alot better since i started to take clomid and a natural test booster. My next cycle i was thinkin of cooking up some Test C at 250mg/ml , EQ 200mg/ml, and winstrol 100mg/ml. I'm just wondering because i never did test before, should i start out with 1cc a week. I would likie to start at 500mg but I dont know how im goin to react to this so im kind of nervous, cause im acne pron. EQ im goin to start at 400mg a week and end at 600mg a week. Now the win i thouhgt to through in for week 8 - 12 ( is tat long enough) at 100mg every 3rd day. I saw alot of peoples cycles with eq n test but i didnt see one tat fit me? Anyones thought oh how should i go about this 12 week cycle.

Im 186 5'9" eating is not a problem, i do tat on the regular ( eat healthy n get enough protein)

	CLomid

	protein

[Sentinel33]

Why did you run a tren cycle eod without a test base and why did you run tren period before never running test? Tren is one of the most potent steroids available and should rarely if ever be used by noobs. I guess you found out the results the hard way.

You probably want to run your Test C at 500mg a week along with upping the EQ to 400mg instead of 200mgs and lower your Win to 50mg and only take it for the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle. If your acne prone make sure you up your water intake to 1 to 1 and 1/2 gallon of water a day and stock up on Proactive. If you are extremely worried about acne then go with a shorter based test ester like propionate. Winny elevates liver values and you can get plenty of results from just 50mgs. It sounds like you want to put on mass so you should definitely up the test first. That should always be a base in any cycle.

[irishcoug0307]

Originally Posted by Sentinel33

Why did you run a tren cycle eod without a test base and why did you run tren period before never running test? Tren is one of the most potent steroids available and should rarely if ever be used by noobs. I guess you found out the results the hard way.

You probably want to run your Test C at 500mg a week along with upping the EQ to 400mg instead of 200mgs and lower your Win to 50mg and only take it for the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle. If your acne prone make sure you up your water intake to 1 to 1 and 1/2 gallon of water a day and stock up on Proactive. If you are extremely worried about acne then go with a shorter based test ester like propionate. Winny elevates liver values and you can get plenty of results from just 50mgs. It sounds like you want to put on mass so you should definitely up the test first. That should always be a base in any cycle.

Would you reccommend a test/win cycle. i'm setting up for my first cycle at 500mgs test e and 50mgs win? with pct clen/t3 and clomid/nolva

	CLomid

	Nolva

	Clen

	T3

[Sentinel33]

Originally Posted by irishcoug0307

Would you reccommend a test/win cycle. i'm setting up for my first cycle at 500mgs test e and 50mgs win? with pct clen/t3 and clomid/nolva

Well considering this is your first cycle I need to know what your goals are also? How long are you planning your cycle for? What is your reasoning behind the adding win to your cycle? Your PCT with Clomid/Nova is fine. But running clen and t3 after you are done with your anabolics might not be the best for the preserving the gains you made during your cycle.

	CLomid

	Nolva

	Clen

	T3

[irishcoug0307]

Originally Posted by Sentinel33

Well considering this is your first cycle I need to know what your goals are also? How long are you planning your cycle for? What is your reasoning behind the adding win to your cycle? Your PCT with Clomid/Nova is fine. But running clen and t3 after you are done with your anabolics might not be the best for the preserving the gains you made during your cycle.

well I just finished chemo for testicular cancer and i gained a lot of weight and also lost a lot of muscle. i'm 5'9 at 215 right now. prolly around 16% bf when before i was 225 at 10%..

my goals are to gain more muscle back and get leaned out. right now i'm doing an eca stack/clen with a strict diet and cardio and lifting to lose the latest fat gain. Once i get a little bit leaner, i plan on taking an 8 week cycle of test e and winny with a pct. thoughts/ opinions?

	Nolva

	Clen

[Alter-Ego]

If your gonna run test and win together I'm assuming your I would reccomend letro at a low dose EOD to keep you dry and hard throughout cycle. Otherwise I would leave of the winny.

Wow, I didn't see your last post! Maybe you need to rethink things for the time being. I would have to reccomend staying natural and use some of the great OTC products available to you. Novedex XT, a good NO product, creatine, protein, with a good multi and sound diet.

If you are really set on doing this, I would reccomend speaking with your doctor before doing so.

	Letro

	protein