1st Cycle

[graeme]

Need some guidance to see what others think

Im planning to do test cyp only 200mg per week weeks 1-12
pct using clomid

i also have some deca would it be worth cycling this or using it towards the end to help keep gains, i though about deca only but heard various about sides

stats age 32 weight 223 bf 15%
been training 5 year
bench 290 - 320
dl 350
squat 410

Thanks

Also would it be wise to mix the 2 in the same shot or best to keep them seperate?

	CLomid

	Nolva

[Nigbo]

ok for starters a good first cycle would be about 500mg of test e, i dunno how happy your gonna be with 200mg of test cyp

As far as keeping your gains, deca at the end of a cycle isant going to help you do that, on top of that you dont want to run deca longer then you run test so you can avoid ED problems caused by the use of deca. Deca is known to shut people down so u want to counter the affect by running some kind of test longer to help regulate your body

If you dont take my advice and continue to do what you had planned, yes its fine to put both in 1 syringe

[graeme]

Originally Posted by Nigbo

ok for starters a good first cycle would be about 500mg of test e, i dunno how happy your gonna be with 200mg of test cyp

As far as keeping your gains, deca at the end of a cycle isant going to help you do that, on top of that you dont want to run deca longer then you run test so you can avoid ED problems caused by the use of deca. Deca is known to shut people down so u want to counter the affect by running some kind of test longer to help regulate your body

If you dont take my advice and continue to do what you had planned, yes its fine to put both in 1 syringe

So run the deca and the test together then maybe just drop onto test nearer the end of the cycle?

Thanks for yr advice and reply

[Nigbo]

If I was you ide go:

Test E 500mg 1-15
Deca 250/300(Depending on what you can get) 1-10

[powerlifter]

Stay with Test only as a first cycle - you don't know how you will react to that compound let alone multiple compounds. I'd go test cyp shooting 200mg E3.5D = twice a week for at least 12 weeks ( 16 is better ) - rethink the clomid only for PCT - you really need to add a SERM or an AI to maximize the gains you keep and keep your body from manufacturing a ton of estrogen as you get the boys back to shape - read up on it in our PCT forum. So to sum up

Test cyp 200mg shot every 3 1/2 days for 16 weeks - then clomid and nolva or an aromatase inhibitor for PCT

	CLomid

	Nolva

[graeme]

I started today gone with the test cyp 200mg alone, will be tightening the diet and doing a bit extra cardio to try and counter any bloat

ive got the pct sorted with clomid and nolva - picked them up this afternoon

im still unsure about 200 mg every 3.5 days - would like further advice on this, will it be more beneficial or just as good doing it once a week

I know the dosage is low but thats planned with it being 1st cycle, going to run it for 12 weeks

	CLomid

	Nolva

[Nigbo]

Originally Posted by graeme

I started today gone with the test cyp 200mg alone, will be tightening the diet and doing a bit extra cardio to try and counter any bloat

ive got the pct sorted with clomid and nolva - picked them up this afternoon

im still unsure about 200 mg every 3.5 days - would like further advice on this, will it be more beneficial or just as good doing it once a week

I know the dosage is low but thats planned with it being 1st cycle, going to run it for 12 weeks

Yes...to get the maximum affect 3.5 days is good like stated above. Once a week wont keep your blood levels regular and u wont get as good of a result as you could

	CLomid

	Nolva

[powerlifter]

Steady Blood levels = Steady Gains and Less Side Effects

[scottyspiked]

sounds liek a good first cycle. maybe you will get great gains form only 200 per week. If you dotn then you know and you can always bump up the dose.