[pushinweights]

thanks caturpilar i will try then both in the next few weeks only reason i was gonna try stiff legged is because it was on bodybuilding.com as a lower back workout and deadlifts it was showing just as a leg workout...i do feel it in my lower back when i do them though, still trying to find my weight on using those with good form, can't wait to do them though i love those and squats